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Post by Chicago on Oct 23, 2014 22:03:10 GMT -6
Can someone who knows about this stuff explain the Avengers Age of Ultron trailer to me. What's with the creepy messed up robot dude near the beginning. And what's that giant bulked up Iron Man thing doing fighting Hulk.
It looks good and I love superhero movies, but.. I don't know enough comic book stuff to get wtf is happening.
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Post by Berlin on Oct 24, 2014 7:26:04 GMT -6
Can someone who knows about this stuff explain the Avengers Age of Ultron trailer to me. What's with the creepy messed up robot dude near the beginning. And what's that giant bulked up Iron Man thing doing fighting Hulk. It looks good and I love superhero movies, but.. I don't know enough comic book stuff to get wtf is happening. I'll need NY (who knows more about this than I) or someone else to clean this up a bit, but here goes. I haven't read any of the "sites" about what's going on, but it appears that Marvel is taking Ultron (the creepy messed up robot dude) in a different direction from the comics. There, he was created by Henry Pym, the Ant Man...from the trailer, it appears he is a creation or byproduct from Stark/Iron and his Jarvis-suit collection. Again, I'm just guessing on that one, but that seems to be the logical jump from where they left off in Iron Man 3 and the fact that Ant Man hasn't even been introduced yet. And the giant suit is Iron Man's Hulk-busting suit specifically made to fight the Hulk. Whether that is Ultron controlling it in the trailer or Stark and Hulk fighting, I don't know.
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Post by Chicago on Oct 24, 2014 7:59:21 GMT -6
Can someone who knows about this stuff explain the Avengers Age of Ultron trailer to me. What's with the creepy messed up robot dude near the beginning. And what's that giant bulked up Iron Man thing doing fighting Hulk. It looks good and I love superhero movies, but.. I don't know enough comic book stuff to get wtf is happening. I'll need NY (who knows more about this than I) or someone else to clean this up a bit, but here goes. I haven't read any of the "sites" about what's going on, but it appears that Marvel is taking Ultron (the creepy messed up robot dude) in a different direction from the comics. There, he was created by Henry Pym, the Ant Man...from the trailer, it appears he is a creation or byproduct from Stark/Iron and his Jarvis-suit collection. Again, I'm just guessing on that one, but that seems to be the logical jump from where they left off in Iron Man 3 and the fact that Ant Man hasn't even been introduced yet. And the giant suit is Iron Man's Hulk-busting suit specifically made to fight the Hulk. Whether that is Ultron controlling it in the trailer or Stark and Hulk fighting, I don't know. So this is what Wikipedia says: "With S.H.I.E.L.D. destroyed and the Avengers needing a hiatus from stopping threats, Tony Stark attempts to jumpstart a dormant peacekeeping program with Ultron, a self-aware, self-teaching, artificial intelligence. However, his plan backfires when Ultron decides that humans are the main enemy and sets out to eradicate them from Earth, and it is up to Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, the Hulk, Black Widow and Hawkeye, along with support from Nick Fury and Maria Hill, to stop him from enacting his plans. Along the way, the Avengers encounter the powerful twins, Pietro and Wanda Maximoff, as well as the familiar Vision."
So it sounds like iRobot... but better (I liked iRobot btw.. it's on TV like once a month and I still watch it lol)
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Post by Sydney on Oct 24, 2014 9:44:23 GMT -6
I'll need NY (who knows more about this than I) or someone else to clean this up a bit, but here goes. I haven't read any of the "sites" about what's going on, but it appears that Marvel is taking Ultron (the creepy messed up robot dude) in a different direction from the comics. There, he was created by Henry Pym, the Ant Man...from the trailer, it appears he is a creation or byproduct from Stark/Iron and his Jarvis-suit collection. Again, I'm just guessing on that one, but that seems to be the logical jump from where they left off in Iron Man 3 and the fact that Ant Man hasn't even been introduced yet. And the giant suit is Iron Man's Hulk-busting suit specifically made to fight the Hulk. Whether that is Ultron controlling it in the trailer or Stark and Hulk fighting, I don't know. So this is what Wikipedia says: "With S.H.I.E.L.D. destroyed and the Avengers needing a hiatus from stopping threats, Tony Stark attempts to jumpstart a dormant peacekeeping program with Ultron, a self-aware, self-teaching, artificial intelligence. However, his plan backfires when Ultron decides that humans are the main enemy and sets out to eradicate them from Earth, and it is up to Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, the Hulk, Black Widow and Hawkeye, along with support from Nick Fury and Maria Hill, to stop him from enacting his plans. Along the way, the Avengers encounter the powerful twins, Pietro and Wanda Maximoff, as well as the familiar Vision."
So it sounds like iRobot... but better (I liked iRobot btw.. it's on TV like once a month and I still watch it lol) Don't lie, you just like Will Smith.
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Post by Chicago on Oct 24, 2014 10:21:25 GMT -6
So this is what Wikipedia says: "With S.H.I.E.L.D. destroyed and the Avengers needing a hiatus from stopping threats, Tony Stark attempts to jumpstart a dormant peacekeeping program with Ultron, a self-aware, self-teaching, artificial intelligence. However, his plan backfires when Ultron decides that humans are the main enemy and sets out to eradicate them from Earth, and it is up to Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, the Hulk, Black Widow and Hawkeye, along with support from Nick Fury and Maria Hill, to stop him from enacting his plans. Along the way, the Avengers encounter the powerful twins, Pietro and Wanda Maximoff, as well as the familiar Vision."
So it sounds like iRobot... but better (I liked iRobot btw.. it's on TV like once a month and I still watch it lol) Don't lie, you just like Will Smith. Who doesn't!
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Post by Chicago on Oct 24, 2014 16:19:42 GMT -6
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Post by Berlin on Oct 28, 2014 14:21:59 GMT -6
Ok, Marvel announces Phase Three films...here's the schedule:
"Captain America: Civil War" (May 6, 2016) "Doctor Strange" (Nov. 4, 2016) "Guardians of the Galaxy 2" (May 5, 2017) "Thor: Ragnarok" (July 27, 2017) "Black Panther" (Nov. 3, 2017) "Marvel's The Avengers: Infinity War Part 1" (May 4, 2018) "Captain Marvel" (July 6, 2018) "Inhumans" (Nov. 2, 2018) "Marvel's The Avengers: Infinity War Part 2" (May 3, 2019)
Throw in what DC has committed to, and that's 4 films between them in 2016, 5 in 2017, 5 in 2018 and so on...and that's not including what Sony might do with Spider-man and what Fox has going on with X-Men and their Fantastic Four reboot. So, I asked a while ago and I'm asking again. Have we reached critical mass on this comic book movies yet? A recent poll said that the average moviegoer goes to 5 movies a year...clearly a few of us in here go to many more a year than that, but if you are a movie studio and you know that the average moviegoer is only going 5 times a year, are you really assuming all 5 of those will be comic book films? At what point are you cannabalizing your own films? Or does Marvel just assume they will get all the cash and that DC will get none of it and vice versa?
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Post by London on Oct 28, 2014 14:26:18 GMT -6
What are "Inhumans"?
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Post by New York on Oct 28, 2014 14:35:44 GMT -6
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Post by New York on Oct 28, 2014 14:38:28 GMT -6
Also Seer i'll touch on the Avengers Trailer at some point soon but Plossl was pretty much on point.
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Post by Berlin on Oct 28, 2014 14:38:48 GMT -6
Awful fringe characters in the Marvel Universe...but they are sorta kinda like the X-Men if you squint and look at them sideways, so they are getting the big push by Marvel from here on out in all crossovers as the X-Men are supposed to be more and more excluded from big stories (at least ones that could be used in movie properties). The Inhumans will fill the spot that the X-Men should have in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That's a jaded and dramatically simplified explanation...but tell me I'm lying.
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Post by New York on Oct 28, 2014 15:10:32 GMT -6
Awful fringe characters in the Marvel Universe...but they are sorta kinda like the X-Men if you squint and look at them sideways, so they are getting the big push by Marvel from here on out in all crossovers as the X-Men are supposed to be more and more excluded from big stories (at least ones that could be used in movie properties). The Inhumans will fill the spot that the X-Men should have in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That's a jaded and dramatically simplified explanation...but tell me I'm lying. I think you are underselling the Inhumans a bit. Their origin isn't similar to the X-Men, and they've got some pretty cool characters like their leader Black Bolt. The video I posted above is pretty short and gives a good synopsis of who the Inhumans are. What Marvel is doing with the Inhumans right now is pretty X-Men like with a bunch of teenagers being revealed as Inhuman which has been pretty lame but other than that I don't really relate them to the X-Men outside of the fact that Marvel Studios is going to use them in the place of the X-Men moving forward. On an unrelated note really excited about this:
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Post by Berlin on Oct 28, 2014 15:26:23 GMT -6
Awful fringe characters in the Marvel Universe...but they are sorta kinda like the X-Men if you squint and look at them sideways, so they are getting the big push by Marvel from here on out in all crossovers as the X-Men are supposed to be more and more excluded from big stories (at least ones that could be used in movie properties). The Inhumans will fill the spot that the X-Men should have in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That's a jaded and dramatically simplified explanation...but tell me I'm lying. I think you are underselling the Inhumans a bit. Their origin isn't similar to the X-Men, and they've got some pretty cool characters like their leader Black Bolt. The video I posted above is pretty short and gives a good synopsis of who the Inhumans are. What Marvel is doing with the Inhumans right now is pretty X-Men like with a bunch of teenagers being revealed as Inhuman which has been pretty lame but other than that I don't really relate them to the X-Men outside of the fact that Marvel Studios is going to use them in the place of the X-Men moving forward. On an unrelated note really excited about this: Oh, I agree the origin isn't similar (it's lame)....but I'd say in the grand scheme of things, they are D-level characters that are getting bumped up to B-level status because Marvel can't use the X-Men in their movies. Correct me if you disagree, but if Fox had magically lost the rights to the X-Men say, 5 years ago, the Inhumans wouldn't be a blip in the eye of the MCU, and I doubt we'd be seeing comic storylines like Inhumans: Attilan Rising upcoming. Big push.
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Post by New York on Oct 28, 2014 15:26:34 GMT -6
Also out of all the announced movies, i'm really looking forward to Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) and Black Panther's movies. I figured we'd get a Panther movie after the little easter egg in the Avengers trailer but glad to see it's official now.
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Post by Berlin on Oct 28, 2014 15:36:24 GMT -6
Also out of all the announced movies, i'm really looking forward to Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) and Black Panther's movies. I figured we'd get a Panther movie after the little easter egg in the Avengers trailer but glad to see it's official now. Yep, I'm excited for the Black Panther movie and the casting of Chadwick Boseman...loved him in 42 and Get On Up. Contrast to DC who cast Jason Mamoa as Aquaman and the Rock as Black Adam in the Shazam movie...I like that Marvel keeps getting real actors with chops to play major roles in their movies, while DC just seems to be getting hulking actors that seem to have the look.
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Post by New York on Oct 28, 2014 15:39:19 GMT -6
I think you are underselling the Inhumans a bit. Their origin isn't similar to the X-Men, and they've got some pretty cool characters like their leader Black Bolt. The video I posted above is pretty short and gives a good synopsis of who the Inhumans are. What Marvel is doing with the Inhumans right now is pretty X-Men like with a bunch of teenagers being revealed as Inhuman which has been pretty lame but other than that I don't really relate them to the X-Men outside of the fact that Marvel Studios is going to use them in the place of the X-Men moving forward. On an unrelated note really excited about this: Oh, I agree the origin isn't similar (it's lame)....but I'd say in the grand scheme of things, they are D-level characters that are getting bumped up to B-level status because Marvel can't use the X-Men in their movies. Correct me if you disagree, but if Fox had magically lost the rights to the X-Men say, 5 years ago, the Inhumans wouldn't be a blip in the eye of the MCU, and I doubt we'd be seeing comic storylines like Inhumans: Attilan Rising upcoming. Big push. Haha we'll have to agree to disagree on their origin being lame. If we are talking about all the Inhumans then I disagree that they are D-list characters because Black Bolt (along with Lockjaw and Medusa) are pretty popular characters among Comic Book readers. Something pretty funny about the Marvel movies though is that the characters they use aren't necessarily the most popular comic book characters they have available. Iron Man was pretty low on the totem pole among comic book characters (still is in all honesty with how his books sell) but he is the most popular movie character that they have. Also while they are definitely getting a big push now, they have not been without their big stories in the past. I agree that if Marvel had the X-Men rights they wouldn't be using the Inhumans in the MCU right now but that's just because there wouldn't be a need to take a risk on characters the general public aren't familiar with. If Marvel had the rights to things like Spider-Man, X-Men and the FF there are a lot of movies announced today that wouldn't have been. We wouldn't have seen a Guardians of the Galaxy movie, Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, an Ant-Man wouldn't be getting made. Outside of the GOTG, those are all big names to comic book readers but they are risky movies to make because for the most part outside of someone like you or I that has some comic book knowledge, people don't know who they are.
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Post by Sydney on Oct 28, 2014 21:10:44 GMT -6
Oh, I agree the origin isn't similar (it's lame)....but I'd say in the grand scheme of things, they are D-level characters that are getting bumped up to B-level status because Marvel can't use the X-Men in their movies. Correct me if you disagree, but if Fox had magically lost the rights to the X-Men say, 5 years ago, the Inhumans wouldn't be a blip in the eye of the MCU, and I doubt we'd be seeing comic storylines like Inhumans: Attilan Rising upcoming. Big push. Haha we'll have to agree to disagree on their origin being lame. If we are talking about all the Inhumans then I disagree that they are D-list characters because Black Bolt (along with Lockjaw and Medusa) are pretty popular characters among Comic Book readers. Something pretty funny about the Marvel movies though is that the characters they use aren't necessarily the most popular comic book characters they have available. Iron Man was pretty low on the totem pole among comic book characters (still is in all honesty with how his books sell) but he is the most popular movie character that they have. Also while they are definitely getting a big push now, they have not been without their big stories in the past. I agree that if Marvel had the X-Men rights they wouldn't be using the Inhumans in the MCU right now but that's just because there wouldn't be a need to take a risk on characters the general public aren't familiar with. If Marvel had the rights to things like Spider-Man, X-Men and the FF there are a lot of movies announced today that wouldn't have been. We wouldn't have seen a Guardians of the Galaxy movie, Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, an Ant-Man wouldn't be getting made. Outside of the GOTG, those are all big names to comic book readers but they are risky movies to make because for the most part outside of someone like you or I that has some comic book knowledge, people don't know who they are. I'm dumbfounded by your knowledge toward Comic Books, although I must admit it is pretty impressive. Anyway, what movie is that pic you posted? Black Panther?
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Post by New York on Oct 28, 2014 21:19:54 GMT -6
I'm dumbfounded by your knowledge toward Comic Books, although I must admit it is pretty impressive. Anyway, what movie is that pic you posted? Black Panther? That's a shot from one of the Avengers Infinity War movies. If you noticed throughout the Marvel movies there have been these things called infinity gems being collected (the colored stones you see in the gauntlet). Also in one of the Thor movies there was an easter egg showing the Infinity Gauntlet (the glove you see Thanos wearing in the shot) among treasures in Asgard. In the comic books there is: Soul Gem: Green Tim Gem: Orange Space Gem: Purple Reality Gem: Yellow Power Gem: Red Mind Gem: Blue When these six gems are placed in the Infinity Gauntlet the holder gains god-like abilities. This is what is going to make Thanos such a big villain in the third and fourth Avengers movies.
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Post by Beijing on Oct 30, 2014 1:09:41 GMT -6
I will say this for Warner Brothers... if The Flash continues to get very good ratings just like Arrow has been for over 2 seasons now, they would be wise to negotiate with CW to sign Grant Gustin and Stephen Amell for future Justice League films. So far, I'm a big fan of Gustin's acting for Barry Allen. I'm more familiar with DC comics than Marvel just because they were bigger on TV so I was more interested in the comics as well. Using the established fan favorites like Amell and Gustin (if The Flash heads down that path) would add credibility to the Justice League movies rather than what seems to be DC throwing together a group of actors with no real credentials outside of Cavill and Affleck (who people still question).
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Post by London on Oct 30, 2014 6:32:42 GMT -6
I will say this for Warner Brothers... if The Flash continues to get very good ratings just like Arrow has been for over 2 seasons now, they would be wise to negotiate with CW to sign Grant Gustin and Stephen Amell for future Justice League films. So far, I'm a big fan of Gustin's acting for Barry Allen. I'm more familiar with DC comics than Marvel just because they were bigger on TV so I was more interested in the comics as well. Using the established fan favorites like Amell and Gustin (if The Flash heads down that path) would add credibility to the Justice League movies rather than what seems to be DC throwing together a group of actors with no real credentials outside of Cavill and Affleck (who people still question). I have no idea about their future plans but in the past they passed on whoever the actor was in SMALLVILLE even though a lot of the show's fans felt that he would have been a good fit to play Supes. But they didn't want it seen as just a SMALLVILLE movie. I agree with you (without ever having seen Arrow or this version of The Flash) that continuity between your franchises would be a smart thing. Marvel is doing it and it's paying off huge for them.
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Post by Berlin on Oct 30, 2014 6:48:10 GMT -6
I will say this for Warner Brothers... if The Flash continues to get very good ratings just like Arrow has been for over 2 seasons now, they would be wise to negotiate with CW to sign Grant Gustin and Stephen Amell for future Justice League films. So far, I'm a big fan of Gustin's acting for Barry Allen. I'm more familiar with DC comics than Marvel just because they were bigger on TV so I was more interested in the comics as well. Using the established fan favorites like Amell and Gustin (if The Flash heads down that path) would add credibility to the Justice League movies rather than what seems to be DC throwing together a group of actors with no real credentials outside of Cavill and Affleck (who people still question). Ezra Miller has already been cast to play the Flash in the upcoming DC movies...and even though Amell has dropped hints that he was hopeful to get the call, it sounds like they aren't going to bring him in either.
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Post by Beijing on Oct 30, 2014 7:46:56 GMT -6
I will say this for Warner Brothers... if The Flash continues to get very good ratings just like Arrow has been for over 2 seasons now, they would be wise to negotiate with CW to sign Grant Gustin and Stephen Amell for future Justice League films. So far, I'm a big fan of Gustin's acting for Barry Allen. I'm more familiar with DC comics than Marvel just because they were bigger on TV so I was more interested in the comics as well. Using the established fan favorites like Amell and Gustin (if The Flash heads down that path) would add credibility to the Justice League movies rather than what seems to be DC throwing together a group of actors with no real credentials outside of Cavill and Affleck (who people still question). Ezra Miller has already been cast to play the Flash in the upcoming DC movies...and even though Amell has dropped hints that he was hopeful to get the call, it sounds like they aren't going to bring him in either. Not a fan of that casting at all. Miller is a good actor, I just don't think a super hero role is right for him at all. Especially with Flash being one of my favorite superheroes. If they muck up his movie I'll be pissed.
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Post by New York on Nov 1, 2014 11:51:23 GMT -6
Another Avengers 2 Clip. You can tell this one is foreshadowing the events of Cap 3: Civil War.
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Post by Sydney on Nov 4, 2014 9:23:31 GMT -6
I don't know about eveyrone else but I'm pumped to see Interstellar.
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Post by London on Nov 4, 2014 12:48:28 GMT -6
I don't know about eveyrone else but I'm pumped to see Interstellar. You and everyone else on the planet Don't sleep on Inherent Vice though.
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