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Post by Derek on Jul 23, 2013 13:34:01 GMT -6
Anyone have any input?
got 50 games + 15/Postseason for lying
My friend wants him gone forever for how he handled it... but all the guys lied. In fairness, MLB has best, most extensive and most harsh penalty of the "major" sports.
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Post by Los Angeles on Jul 23, 2013 14:02:32 GMT -6
He made the smart move by making the deal with the MLB
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Post by Danny on Jul 23, 2013 14:26:33 GMT -6
Ryan Braun used steroids. BFD.
The bigger question is, "who the f*** cares about baseball anymore?"
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Post by Tyler on Jul 23, 2013 14:38:48 GMT -6
Yeah not to bash Baseball because its pretty legit, especially going to the games, but havent they been dealing with Steroids for more then a decade? Shit, when Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire were dukeing it out there was steroid talk. As sad as it is, it's kind a part of baseball these days.
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Post by Tyler on Jul 23, 2013 14:40:20 GMT -6
I think the more interesting story is Aaron Rodgers bet his base pay (4.5 Million) that Ryan Braun wasn't on steroids, but he was wrong. I hope he pays up, it'd show some class  |
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Post by Dave on Jul 23, 2013 14:53:09 GMT -6
Meh, who cares about the suspension this year. Aren't they way out of playoff contention? Void his giant contract or suspend him all of next season.
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Post by London on Jul 23, 2013 14:59:37 GMT -6
I think the more interesting story is Aaron Rodgers bet his base pay (4.5 Million) that Ryan Braun wasn't on steroids, but he was wrong. I hope he pays up, it'd show some class Heard about that. I hope he does. It's 1/4 of what he makes this year (a big chunk) but overall probably not a huge percentage of what he'll make over his career (with endorsements). I think he should find some program to keep kids clean or something. Even if he doesn't follow through its not big deal but I'm always a supporter of philanthropy from those who can afford it. |
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Post by Los Angeles on Jul 23, 2013 15:50:49 GMT -6
I didnt even think about Rodgers donating the money, thats actually a really good idea
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Post by London on Jul 23, 2013 15:59:07 GMT -6
I didnt even think about Rodgers donating the money, thats actually a really good idea Well, he can back my Kickstarter page if he'd rather  |
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Post by San Antonio on Jul 23, 2013 17:53:42 GMT -6
I think the more interesting story is Aaron Rodgers bet his base pay (4.5 Million) that Ryan Braun wasn't on steroids, but he was wrong. I hope he pays up, it'd show some class Don't take any bet that Aaron Rodgers takes seriously. He said if the Packers lost to the 49ers when they played during the regular season last year, he would wear a 49ers jersey for a week. Rodgers still hasn't paid up on that wager. And the bet that he made with the fan regarding Braun for his 2013 salary is actually 39.5 million. |
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Post by Tyler on Jul 23, 2013 19:11:40 GMT -6
Its his base pay of 4.5 million from what I've read. He got a 35 million dollar signing bonus but he only gets 4.5 million base pay.
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Post by Derek on Jul 24, 2013 10:14:24 GMT -6
Something should be paid... he took a shot at the media and was completely wrong.
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Post by San Antonio on Jul 24, 2013 16:40:50 GMT -6
He should at the very LEAST give up a game check.
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Post by Detroit on Jul 27, 2013 13:33:55 GMT -6
First off, Rodgers doesn't owe anybody anything. It was clear the 'bet' he made was a kind gesture towards his friend Ryan and stating that he believes Braun is clean.
As for Braun, why the hell does anyone care whether or not he's using steroids? It kills me (as in laughing, not hurting) to hear the media lambast Lance Armstrong for 'cheating' and being a 'liar'. That's fine and dandy, but last I checked his MOTIVATIONAL STORY ended up raising millions upon millions upon millions of dollars for research towards cancer. No matter how hard they try to tear him down, in the end he made a bigger POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION to society than pretty much anyone and the media jackasses can kiss his champion's ASS.
Steroids do give someone an unfair advantage. Then again, the biggest complaint against them is they 'tarnish' records and devalue records of the past. However, doesn't playing AAU ball instead of working in the coal mines for 8 hours before playing baseball also diminish the history? Kids these days have ALL KINDS OF ADVANTAGES. Steroids is just ONE of them. Either stop kids from playing baseball for multiple hours a day and playing 2-3 games a day in AAU or stop complaining about steroids, one of MANY advantages of the modern game.
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Post by San Antonio on Jul 27, 2013 13:54:56 GMT -6
Don't even get me started with Lance Armstrong. I heard that his former team is suing him and his excuse is that the postal team should've known he was doping. And that's coming from a guy who had sued countless people for accusing him of cheating, what a joke.
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Post by Detroit on Jul 27, 2013 15:39:38 GMT -6
Don't even get me started with Lance Armstrong. I heard that his former team is suing him and his excuse is that the postal team should've known he was doping. And that's coming from a guy who had sued countless people for accusing him of cheating, what a joke. Once again, it's great that some people are taking the moral high ground. Yet, are you donating your time at a local animal or food shelter? What about volunteering with youths? Etc. In what way are you making a difference in this world? Because Lance didn't help one person or ten, he helped tens of MILLIONS, so whatever transgressions he's had, who the fuck cares, right? |
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Post by Los Angeles on Jul 28, 2013 10:25:30 GMT -6
If I was a rich athlete with nothing to worry about Id probably have more time and money to donate as well, but Im not, because Im not on steroids...
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Post by London on Aug 5, 2013 11:21:49 GMT -6
AROD just got 200 games.
Does that effectively end his career?
Are the Yankees still on the hook for his contract?
Sounds like he was recruiting people for this clinic. He should be banned from baseball like Pete Rose or the Black Sox.
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Post by Derek on Aug 5, 2013 11:32:48 GMT -6
Don't see it out yet.
No.
Yes and No. While suspended no, while not (if he appeals and/or after suspension) suspended obviously have to pay him.
Not sure that is entirely true, if so then maybe he should be.
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Post by Berlin on Aug 5, 2013 15:18:43 GMT -6
A-Rod will get paid while he appeals...once he loses the appeal, he won't be paid the season plus he is out. What intrigues me is to see if he actually comes back in 2015 to sit on the Yankees bench to collect his 20+ mil a year paycheck just cause he can or if he he'll flat out retire and leave money on the table.
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Post by Derek on Aug 6, 2013 9:46:03 GMT -6
A-Rod will get paid while he appeals...once he loses the appeal, he won't be paid the season plus he is out. What intrigues me is to see if he actually comes back in 2015 to sit on the Yankees bench to collect his 20+ mil a year paycheck just cause he can or if he he'll flat out retire and leave money on the table. He won't do that. Feels like he can play and certainly has made it obvious he wants his money. |
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Post by Berlin on Aug 6, 2013 9:49:20 GMT -6
He feels like he can play now...but when he loses this thing in a month, the ban will be for 211 games...now he is out until the first month or so of the 2015 season. Is he gonna want to go 18 months without playing and then come back to sit the bench (which is what he'll do after 18 months of inactivity)?
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Post by Derek on Aug 6, 2013 13:53:40 GMT -6
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Post by Berlin on Aug 6, 2013 15:17:43 GMT -6
An interesting read, though Caple's argument doesn't hold water. His analogy essentially says that baseball changed the rules with the Biogenesis ruling...they didn't. If the players involved had gotten more than 50 games (as they originally were going to get 100 games it sounded like) it might have been different, but they got the standard PED penalty. That isn't the case for ARod, who is getting his penalty for not only doping, but obstructing the investigation, tampering with evidence and recruiting other to Biogenesis. It also basically says because previous generations of players cheated, we should be sympathetic with this group of cheaters. Sorry...I don't buy the "if its good for the goose, its good for the gander" method of enforcing the rules. Baseball said PED use was rampant and out of control. They did what they could to try to shut it down. Players tried to continue to find a new way around the crackdown. No, I have no sympathy just because a long time ago Gaylord Perry doctored the ball... |
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Post by Beijing on Aug 7, 2013 15:09:46 GMT -6
I hate all the steroid shit, it really has ruined the image of baseball. I just hope that this group of young ballers (Puig, Posey, Harper, Trout, etc) can revamp the game without juicing.
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