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Post by London on Jun 28, 2013 11:21:25 GMT -6
Don't like MNs draft largely cause of Shabazz. Not a fan.
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Post by Dave on Jun 28, 2013 20:05:32 GMT -6
Ugh, I have no idea who Steven Adams is for my Thunder pick. I saw 7'0 center and then saw that he only averaged 7ppg 6rpg and am not impressed. Presti really has lost his touch it seems. We've had way to many picks bust the last couple seasons that could have helped to put us over the top. Would have been much happier with Olynyk or hell even Shabazz for punch on the 2nd unit if Lamb is ready to put in major minutes which is yet to be known. Lamb can score bucketloads but not sure he has improved enough defensively to take majority of the minutes away from Sefo.
Only the T-Wolves could turn Burke into Shabazz. Minnesota GM=Cursed. I don't know enough about the other guy they got but if the big thing was a 2 that can shoot and defend, you had that with Burke and now you get the ego of Shabazz. I guess if Adelman only planned on one more year of coaching then this won't kill him, but otherwise I can't see him liking Shabazz.
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Post by London on Jun 28, 2013 21:06:38 GMT -6
Burke certainly isn't a 2 but neither is Shabazz. He's a 3 in my book.
Looking forward to Dieng.
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Post by San Antonio on Jun 28, 2013 21:24:34 GMT -6
Burke certainly isn't a 2 but neither is Shabazz. He's a 3 in my book. Looking forward to Dieng. Agreed. Hopefully the wolves can resign Pekovic so they can let Dieng develop.
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Post by Madrid on Jun 28, 2013 22:12:24 GMT -6
Dieng's going to be a 10-12 year pro at least. Louisville's one of my favorite college teams (right behind IU and Oregon) so I got to watch him play a lot. He's mobile, fundamentally sound, has good length, and will be able to rebound, play defense, and block shots very well at the NBA level. He's never going to be a post option, but I like him a lot. He'll be able to pick up guards decently well off switches like Joakim Noah, and he's a very talented passer.
Muhammad, not so much. As mentioned above, he really is more of a 3, but I think he could be great for Minnesota off the bench. Who knows, maybe he drops some weight, improves his mobility, and somehow becomes a 2. Either way, he's a shooter with some great scoring instincts. That's a pretty good pick-up in this draft. I don't know how well Burke would've played behind/with Rubio. Trading down at that point seemed pretty logical for Minnesota if they were targeting a swingman.
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Post by Mexico City on Jun 28, 2013 22:51:28 GMT -6
Holiday doesn't fit the mold of the new stats guys they have in the front office, while a solid player he's not a "numbers" guy so it doesnt shock me they dealt him. By getting Noel they also can avoid overpaying a ton to resign bynum and just go younger and competely rebuild. Couple all that with a top 5 protection in a great draft next year and they can tank season away and come out ok, so i dont mind the moves.. Like you i like what minnesota and utah did
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Post by Mexico City on Jun 28, 2013 22:53:39 GMT -6
Burke is way to small to play sg, dealing him and getting decent value you cannot complain about. Im not high on shabbazz but if he comes to work and gives them a much needed scoring threat even off the bench thats a plus in a weak draft and picking at 14.. Deing simple gives them some wiggle room if they don't resign the big..
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Post by London on Jun 29, 2013 13:17:54 GMT -6
Boston looks to continue the implosion by moving Rondo now for picks and to shed contracts.
Sounds like the Mavs are a contender. I wonder if Charlotte doesn't get involved. They've been looking for a franchise face and have some talent there already.
Anyone else see a possibility?
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Post by London on Jun 29, 2013 13:19:30 GMT -6
Dieng's going to be a 10-12 year pro at least. Louisville's one of my favorite college teams (right behind IU and Oregon) so I got to watch him play a lot. He's mobile, fundamentally sound, has good length, and will be able to rebound, play defense, and block shots very well at the NBA level. He's never going to be a post option, but I like him a lot. He'll be able to pick up guards decently well off switches like Joakim Noah, and he's a very talented passer. Muhammad, not so much. As mentioned above, he really is more of a 3, but I think he could be great for Minnesota off the bench. Who knows, maybe he drops some weight, improves his mobility, and somehow becomes a 2. Either way, he's a shooter with some great scoring instincts. That's a pretty good pick-up in this draft. I don't know how well Burke would've played behind/with Rubio. Trading down at that point seemed pretty logical for Minnesota if they were targeting a swingman. Agreed. And now that AK47 opted out the Wolves basically only have Shabazz under contract as a 3. We hope to re-sign Chase Budinger who could play minutes there but no one in MN views Derrick Williams as our longterm answer there. Must have other moves in the works. Keep hearing about a Gerald Henderson S&T with the Wolves. I dunno, maybe, maybe not. Mayo and Reddick also sound like plausible options. I'd prefer Reddick cause he is a stone cold shooter and underrated defender.
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Post by john rockwell on Jun 30, 2013 6:58:57 GMT -6
The Bobcats need something to hang there hat on. I live here in the Charlotte area and really they haven't done anything to be happy with for their fan base since they were the Hornets way back when.
I am a Michael Jordan fan when he was a player, but as an owner he has really stunk the place up.
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Post by London on Jun 30, 2013 9:14:33 GMT -6
I wonder if the Bobcats won't get involved in the Rondo sweepstakes.
I believe they can take on contracts but by doing so they'll shoot themselves in the foot for Josh Smith (who is apparently their #1 FA target from what I hear).
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Post by Mexico City on Jun 30, 2013 10:45:33 GMT -6
If u draft zeller how would he go with josh smith?
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Post by Phil Jackson on Jun 30, 2013 13:10:07 GMT -6
If there is one player in the league that can help Shabazz succeed, it's Rubio. He's going to be a really good player with that team. Shabazz + Dieng >>>>> Burke for Minny. If Love is the Love of old, they're a playoff team IMO.
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Post by London on Jun 30, 2013 14:34:22 GMT -6
If u draft zeller how would he go with josh smith? Oh, that's true. I forgot they got Zeller. He sounds like he's going to be a PF not a C. Smith doesn't still to try and play the 3 does he? Has he finally settled into being a 4? Yeah, Charlotte needs to make a move through trade. I would go for Rondo if I were them. Him and MKG could be fun.
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Post by Phil Jackson on Jun 30, 2013 14:38:00 GMT -6
If u draft zeller how would he go with josh smith? Oh, that's true. I forgot they got Zeller. He sounds like he's going to be a PF not a C. Smith doesn't still to try and play the 3 does he? Has he finally settled into being a 4? Yeah, Charlotte needs to make a move through trade. I would go for Rondo if I were them. Him and MKG could be fun. Yeah but if MKG is at shooting guard, that could be the worst shooting backcourt in NBA history.
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Post by San Antonio on Jun 30, 2013 21:47:39 GMT -6
Andrea Bargnani to the Knicks?! They're definitely championship material now!
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Post by Derek on Jul 1, 2013 9:49:18 GMT -6
As a Peli fan I am actually excited about the deal. Not high on Noel (wasn't Top 6 on my draft board... Shabazz was though and I'll get to that after). Noel is too skinny to play the 5 and has no offensive game to play the 4. He's a poor man's AD, which we have already. Even without Jrue... Odds pick is top 10 is not likely. Young team will improve and EGKnees actually played a good bit last year. Suspect about 65-70 games from him this year will have this team around 35-40 wins Pre-Jrue. Add a 23 year old PG who can play both sides of the court and made an All-Star game for 6 Overall and say 10 Overall in a 2014 draft class I have never been sold on (too many tweeners at the 3/4 and "wings" who can't shoot or defend). Also looks like the Pelicans have some Tier 2 Free Agents interested in visiting at worst which is a change. Tom Benson has always been a willing spender and Demps seems smart enough with money to turn this team into a playoff team and maybe higher depending on development.
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Post by Derek on Jul 1, 2013 9:56:16 GMT -6
Wolves - I know there are plenty of fans here of the TWolves, I absolutely love the move made by them. No need for another PG who has Johnny Flynn written all over him. Lacks elite level quickness, defense, and athleticism to make up for what he lacks size wise. Shabazz is an extremely hard working player who wants to succeed. That enough will make him a serviceable NBA player. Great as a 4th or 5th starter once he adjusts and works on attacking off dribble. Dieng provides an experienced big who can back-up Pek or even take over 24 MPG if Pek doesn't return.
Bobcats - I like the Zeller pick, sure he didn't fare well with the attention he drew (made Dipo look better than he is because of it) but he is a surefire 10 year pro. He can play the 4/5 and runs the floor as well as any big. Added perimeter game could make him a very, very good starter. Not sure I want him Top 5 but I know they didn't want to take another player like Len or Noel that projects as a "project player" and it appears they will re-sign Henderson since they didn't go after McLemore (who I thought would be a perfect fit next to MKG). Not a slam dunk but it is Charlotte... so what do you expect.
Thunder - Lol at taking another chance on another big white boy. Hasn't worked since Collison.
Knicks - Bargs... Luls. They dealing Stoud now?
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Post by JAH on Jul 1, 2013 12:22:11 GMT -6
Wiz for sure did what they were supposed to do. Porter and Rice = a very nice draft. Should fit in well with what they have. Playoffs are expected next year.
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Post by john rockwell on Jul 1, 2013 12:29:59 GMT -6
Definitely would bring some excitement to Charlotte something that hasn't happened in a long while.
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Post by Derek on Jul 1, 2013 12:44:01 GMT -6
Porter I thought was the best player in the draft. Plenty of scoring in Washington, he provides the needed presence at SF.
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Post by Philadelphia on Jul 1, 2013 15:43:38 GMT -6
Marc Stein tweeted Tyreje Evans has agreed to a 4 year deal with the Pelicans for 44 million. Thoughts?
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Post by San Antonio on Jul 1, 2013 18:45:47 GMT -6
Tyreke has been an underachiever ever since winning ROY. I wonder what are they gonna do with Eric Gordan/Greivis Vasquez now? Plus don't they have Doc Rivers kid?
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Post by OG Cairo on Jul 1, 2013 18:56:04 GMT -6
Adding Tyreke to the Pelicans seems like creating a crowded backcourt (with Rivers, Vasquez, Jrue, Gordon) or an expensive 6th man if the see him in a Manu type role. Also not so sure Kings won't try to work a sign and trade using the threat of matching the contract as leverage.
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Post by Philadelphia on Jul 1, 2013 19:07:59 GMT -6
I think they want him to play SF. He is 6 foot 6 and long. The deal is suppose to be a sign and trade with the Kings where we give them Greivis Vasquez. Then Rivers becomes 6th man and Pierre Jackson is insurance.
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