MC/LON

[London]

MC trades:
James Worthy
Arvo Jartunen

LON trades:
Oscar Schmidt
Jan Van Bredda Kolff

Who wins?

[Beijing]

Even all around.

[Madrid]

CKSA's moves continue look even worse. Moscow, who would you rather have right now, Oscar Schmidt or Mel Daniels? Give me MC on this one, but we'll see how Worthy develops. London, you want a PG for Worthy?

[London]

Jul 13, 2014 13:55:34 GMT -6 Madrid said:

CKSA's moves continue look even worse. Moscow, who would you rather have right now, Oscar Schmidt or Mel Daniels? Give me MC on this one, but we'll see how Worthy develops. London, you want a PG for Worthy?

I'm pretty set with West and Clark, thanks

[Derek]

Not a Worthy fan.

[London]

Jul 13, 2014 14:22:34 GMT -6 Derek said:

Not a Worthy fan.

He seems like he'd be your type of guy.

Really good athlete, great size, he's 20, defensive upside, and some scoring potential.

Is it the lack of shooting at SF?

[New York]

I'm a bigger Worthy fan (I felt he was a steal for MC) than Schmidt but I like both guys. So i'll go even.

[Madrid]

Switched my vote from MEXICO CITY!! to LONDON!! after TC. Somehow, London always knows the best time to trade his players, either when they peak in value around 27-28, or right before they have a terrible TC. Not sure how different the league scout is from anyone else's on Schmidt, but the guy looks like he couldn't fetch a 2nd round pick right now.

[Phil Jackson]

Yeah in TC Worthy exploded in potential and Schmitt had a serious drop. Worthy looks like a future allstar now. London big here.

[Derek]

Jul 16, 2014 7:46:22 GMT -6 Madrid said:

Switched my vote from MEXICO CITY!! to LONDON!! after TC. Somehow, London always knows the best time to trade his players, either when they peak in value around 27-28, or right before they have a terrible TC. Not sure how different the league scout is from anyone else's on Schmidt, but the guy looks like he couldn't fetch a 2nd round pick right now.

THIS

[London]

Schmidt died? That's too bad.

The TC results I've seen have Worthy looking pretty much the same. A lot of Bs with great athleticism and size.

If someone else thinks he's a superstar I'll open up trade talk on him.

[London]

Lol how is this a superstar?

18 James Worthy SF 20 6-9 235
B B B C C C C C B B B C

People... Sounds like a lot of nothing. C'mon.

[San Francisco]

IDK about superstar but Big Game James would be a welcome addition to any rebuilding team, I would think

[Toronto]

Jul 16, 2014 11:05:25 GMT -6 San Francisco said:

IDK about superstar but Big Game James would be a welcome addition to any rebuilding team, I would think

We would welcome him in Cairo

[New York]

Jul 16, 2014 11:00:18 GMT -6 London said:

Lol how is this a superstar?

18 James Worthy SF 20 6-9 235
B B B C C C C C B B B C

People... Sounds like a lot of nothing. C'mon.

I wouldn't call him a superstar but I also wouldn't call him a lot of nothing lol. He definitely looks better than Schmidt now though which is unfortunate because both were nice young prospects at the time of the trade. Schmidt still looks solid but definitely seems to have dropped off some.  

This is my scout's view of the two. 

[Chicago]

They both suck.

Gimme Worthy.

[Washington]

Yea Oscar looks kinda bad right now which sucks for a 2nd year player taking a dip, not the first time I've seen something like that either which is weird. James Worthy looks kinda the same to me, maybe a slight improvement at least through my scouts eyes anyway.

[London]

Yeah. I didn't mean worthy was nothing I was referring to the talk being nothing. To say he's looking like a superstar and that Oscar isn't worth a second is a bit extreme.

[New York]

Jul 16, 2014 11:14:30 GMT -6 Washington said:

Yea Oscar looks kinda bad right now which sucks for a 2nd year player taking a dip, not the first time I've seen something like that either which is weird. James Worthy looks kinda the same to me, maybe a slight improvement at least through my scouts eyes anyway.

It's just how this game is built. Players under 27 at the time of Training Camp can take a random dip or jump in their ratings. I'm not exactly a fan of that (since we already have to deal with guys in their 30s drop making guys safe for only about 3-4 years) but nothing we can do about it. 

Jul 16, 2014 11:22:54 GMT -6 London said:

Yeah. I didn't mean worthy was nothing I was referring to the talk being nothing. To say he's looking like a superstar and that Oscar isn't worth a second is a bit extreme.

Ah okay. I agree with you on both counts then. Worthy looks similar to how he has always looked which is good but not necessarily superstar caliber and while Oscar took a hit he still looks good enough to have value. Plus like I mentioned above he's under 27 so who knows what happens next Training Camp, maybe he jumps back up.

[London]

Exactly. Does anyone know if Korac, Silas, or any of the others jumped back up this year?

[Phil Jackson]

Jul 16, 2014 11:29:21 GMT -6 London said:

Exactly. Does anyone know if Korac, Silas, or any of the others jumped back up this year?

Korac never really dropped in ratings, but his performance did go down surrounded by a lot of other scorers in Belgrade. Silas, Hawkins, and Cosic appear to have held steady since their major falls. Boozer still sucks though.

[Phil Jackson]

Jul 16, 2014 11:22:54 GMT -6 London said:

Yeah. I didn't mean worthy was nothing I was referring to the talk being nothing. To say he's looking like a superstar and that Oscar isn't worth a second is a bit extreme.

No one called him a superstar. I said he looks like a future allstar, I've seen him with A inside potential in some scouts. But I don't think he'll ever be a top 10 player.

Madrid however said Schmitt couldn't fetch a 2nd round pick, so I guess I'll go offer Roark a 2nd now. Just kidding, he dropped but he'll be OK and certainly worth more than a 2nd.

[London]

Jul 16, 2014 12:19:27 GMT -6 Phil Jackson said:

Jul 16, 2014 11:29:21 GMT -6 London said:

Exactly. Does anyone know if Korac, Silas, or any of the others jumped back up this year?

Korac never really dropped in ratings, but his performance did go down surrounded by a lot of other scorers in Belgrade. Silas, Hawkins, and Cosic appear to have held steady since their major falls. Boozer still sucks though.

Sorry, yeah, meant Cosic, not Korac.

[London]

Jul 16, 2014 12:22:27 GMT -6 Phil Jackson said:

No one called him a superstar. I said he looks like a future allstar.

Close enough.

[Derek]

Jul 16, 2014 14:20:52 GMT -6 London said:

Jul 16, 2014 12:19:27 GMT -6 Phil Jackson said:

Korac never really dropped in ratings, but his performance did go down surrounded by a lot of other scorers in Belgrade. Silas, Hawkins, and Cosic appear to have held steady since their major falls. Boozer still sucks though.

Sorry, yeah, meant Cosic, not Korac.

I got all scared and confused and pulled out the laptop to see Korac. LOL WHEW