Guard Centric INS CAMP (850 or 1300 option)

[New York]

So San Francisco and I were having a discussion and we realized that there are four INS camps available right now but 3 are very clearly focused on bigs and the one guard focused one is a 1750 camp. 

Some have complained about the overuse of the 3PS camps for wings and guards so we thought we'd both balance things out a bit more and give guard campers more options. A 500 camp is not included in the poll because of concern of overuse. But with a 1300 and 850 camp it gives a nice balance of being useful but not being too powerful. 

Our mindset for these camps were penetrating guards which don't really have a good representation in our league right now. 

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1300: +3 INS | +3 HND | +3 STL 
- This would replace the Gary Payton camp and would result in a slight tweak to the Pippen camp. The Pippen camp has never been used and the Payton camp has been used twice. But that isn't the focus of this right now so I just want to look at the actual camp. 

850: +3 INS | +3 HND
- Would replace one of the rarely used 850 camps but again this isn't about that and would be focused on if/when a new camp was added. 

These camps are useful but not overpowered to the point of being too useful. HND is a rating that'll help a guard/wing but it's not super powerful so it's a nice balance with the INS rating. 

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So which camp do you like? If not do you have another suggestion or are the camps perfectly fine as is? 

[San Francisco]

Prefer the 850 and think it has some utility for all positions as a lot of big could use some work on handles.

[Beijing]

I like both lol but if I had to choose, probably the 850 camp just based on price

[Sydney]

I think the 1300 is very similar to Oscar Robertson -- not sure it's really needed.

850 could be interesting

[New York]

That's a fair point Sydney. It may be too similar which may be a reason why the Payton and Pippen camps get rare use if any at all.

[London]

Good idea.

I wouldn't mind seeing another change up to the PP spending system.

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