Detroit
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Post by Detroit on May 19, 2013 14:05:10 GMT -6
All I know is I'd rather get a 20-22 year old franchise anchor (to go alongside Korac & Pistelak) and form a potential dynasty down the road then spend the draft picking up 27+ year olds in hopes of sneaking in a quick title and then being stuck in the worst place possible for half a decade - too good to get top pick, too bad to miss playoffs - and have a continuous cycle of unsuccessful seasons. This is *MY OPINION* and isn't intended to piss you or any other contending GM off. It's just how I'm viewing things currently. I plan on being competitive for at least 3 seasons without moves. Afterwards it is possible to remain so through free agency, trades, etc. Should my team ever fall from title contention despite those moves, I would certainly blow it up rather than rema in as an average team like you say.
I also really didn't like most of the ratings for the young studs. Pistelak is one I do like, but there are not too many others who made me think "wow, I'll suck for a few years to have that dude"
I know you're not trying to piss anyone off, I'm also just telling it like I see it. Glad we can have a civil conversation.  |
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Tyler
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Post by Tyler on May 19, 2013 17:02:54 GMT -6
Precisely because so many people like you didn't take those "risks". I would argue that it's less certain how potential will develop in this game than current ratings/settings. There aren't many very good teams. It's a better opportunity than pining for a top 5 pick. All I know is I'd rather get a 20-22 year old franchise anchor (to go alongside Korac & Pistelak) and form a potential dynasty down the road then spend the draft picking up 27+ year olds in hopes of sneaking in a quick title and then being stuck in the worst place possible for half a decade - too good to get top pick, too bad to miss playoffs - and have a continuous cycle of unsuccessful seasons. This is *MY OPINION* and isn't intended to piss you or any other contending GM off. It's just how I'm viewing things currently. Some people are willing to take that chance and not only compete but also build for later. My first two picks were 22 and 21 and my team is solid. |
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Detroit
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Post by Detroit on May 19, 2013 17:50:02 GMT -6
All I know is I'd rather get a 20-22 year old franchise anchor (to go alongside Korac & Pistelak) and form a potential dynasty down the road then spend the draft picking up 27+ year olds in hopes of sneaking in a quick title and then being stuck in the worst place possible for half a decade - too good to get top pick, too bad to miss playoffs - and have a continuous cycle of unsuccessful seasons. This is *MY OPINION* and isn't intended to piss you or any other contending GM off. It's just how I'm viewing things currently. Some people are willing to take that chance and not only compete but also build for later. My first two picks were 22 and 21 and my team is solid. Well, yeah, you were lucky enough to get Volnov. It's no secret almost everyone wanted him and I was trying to move up to get him. Let's not act like you were picking #20, he was off the board (an elite, ready-to-contribute product already with loads of potential to boot), and you were stuck drafting either a future talent not ready to contribute or a finished product with limited upside. You got the best of both worlds unlike most drafting after you. |
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Tyler
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Post by Tyler on May 19, 2013 18:17:54 GMT -6
since the horrendous start at 1-7, we've been 6-6. Very disappointed with how things are going since we looked to draft players that fit THAT system I understand some people drafted to win now, but why take the risk with a brand new game (FBPB) without knowing how to manage the game play style, settings, Depth Charts properly? My goal was to draft Volnov in the 1st round and build around him and IIRC I feigned interest in a bunch of 27-29 year olds to divert attention from him. When he fell through, I went straight for Radivoj Korac. My first 3 picks were all ages 18-20 (currently 19-20 year olds). This way, I get a couple seasons to mess with settings, game plans, DCs, etc. while developing my roster.  Im pointing out the fact that some GMs were able to do both. My first two picks were 21-22 and I traded my future draft picks AFTER I drafted them. Im just trying to say that Beijing wasn't wrong in going for it, its not like anyone could have said after the creation draft that drafting players for that system wasn't going to work. My roster is by no means insane but I happen to have great defense and apparently good settings and a good depth charts as well. Also with the way a lot of players turned out, a lot of teams could have drafted to win now an got a lot of steals in later rounds. It just seemed like you were stating that it was dumb to not draft for the future. |
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Post by London on May 19, 2013 18:49:06 GMT -6
Beijing isn't out of it.
They needed more than JUST outside shooters. They have depth in places people could use. Maybe a small change would help?
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Tyler
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Post by Tyler on May 19, 2013 19:02:06 GMT -6
Oh no doubt, it is still very young in the season. We aren't even 1/3 of the way through so he has plenty of time to mix things up, fix settings, ect..
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Post by London on May 19, 2013 19:04:49 GMT -6
Even if he continues .500 for the rest of the season while going 3-2 once in a while and he's a playoff team..
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Tyler
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Post by Tyler on May 19, 2013 19:13:01 GMT -6
I re-read my post and it kind of sounds like Im saying Beijings system wont work and I didn't mean it that way at all. Im just defending the idea of winning now because a Championship now or next season is still a Championship lol. Beijing has plenty of time to get things to work out and like London said, .500 or better the rest of the season will still have a solid shot and that's basically saying if he keeps everything the exact same he has a decent shot with plenty of time to try to make it better.
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Post by London on May 19, 2013 20:00:53 GMT -6
Yeah, agreed.
If they can find a way to massage another 1ppg in their +/- through settings/lineup adjustments they'll be a solid team. Too few teams can perimeter defend to not take Beijing seriously in a 7 game series.
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Post by Royale on May 20, 2013 1:36:58 GMT -6
We're not even the best in the league in 3 point shooting. pathetic
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Post by London on May 20, 2013 5:57:01 GMT -6
We're not even the best in the league in 3 point shooting. pathetic What's your criteria? I mean, you're #8 in the league and probably shoot more than anyone. Plus, it's been a short sample size. Your team seems to be playing better, give them some time. Every group goes through a rough stretch. |
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Jay
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Post by Jay on May 20, 2013 11:30:44 GMT -6
I didn't brag about winning more games? We keep winning more games.
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