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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 14:18:27 GMT -6
Toronto Trades:
2015 Cordoba 1st
2017 Berlin 1st
Brasil Trades:
Lenny Wilkens
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Post by Derek on Aug 7, 2013 14:19:14 GMT -6
Toronto by a lot. Not my concern. Nobody would get back to me or make me a legit offer. But I get to pick my piece now and make him fit.
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Post by Berlin on Aug 7, 2013 14:23:54 GMT -6
Toronto by a lot...this is a monster trade for Seer, getting Cousy-lite entering his 2nd year in the league for a hugely discounted price.
BraZil, I've never understood the concept of being so desperate to make a deal that you just accept the worst of a bunch of bad offers. Wilkens was the #5 pick in the last draft, arguably should have gone higher, exceeded any and all expectations he could have had as a rookie, and you deal him for the #9 pick in a worse draft and a future 1st that won't likely be lotto? Guess who likely isn't getting a vote from me as GM of the year this season? I'll give you a hint...it rhymes with ShRazil.
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Post by Sydney on Aug 7, 2013 14:27:02 GMT -6
Toronto by a lot.
Wilkens was a top 5 pick in a stronger draft and was a championship caliber PG as a rookie.
#9 in this draft won't be able to contribute as much and Berlin's pick is mediocre, at best.
Don't understand the logic behind this for Brasil at all, and I just voted for him as GMOTY.
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Post by Bayi on Aug 7, 2013 14:28:34 GMT -6
DJ ShRazil was my old hip hop name, coincidentally.
This isn't even close. This is the kind of deal that if made by a less active or new GM (and if we had a trade committee) it would be challenged. Eeesh. Do not like this for Brazil.
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Post by Tyler on Aug 7, 2013 15:01:02 GMT -6
Absolutely love this for Toronto. He turned A weak Wilt team into 3, Boozer, Bobrovsky, and Wilkens in one season. Good work Toronto, you should be a force soon enough.
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Post by Phil Jackson on Aug 7, 2013 15:36:37 GMT -6
This trade is only good if Brazil gets Love. Teams #1-8, please don't let that happen.
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Post by London on Aug 7, 2013 16:19:56 GMT -6
What a foolish trade.
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Post by Los Angeles on Aug 7, 2013 19:39:04 GMT -6
yeah i dont get this
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Post by London on Aug 7, 2013 19:45:37 GMT -6
This trade is only good if Brazil gets Love. Teams #1-8, please don't let that happen. While Love is a good prospect I'm not sure that makes a ton of sense for them. They have a few 3/4s and apparently are looking for outside shooting which is not Bob's strength. Defense is a need on that team but I don't think one guy will make a huge difference. |
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Post by San Antonio on Aug 8, 2013 0:19:40 GMT -6
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Post by Phil Jackson on Aug 8, 2013 14:50:35 GMT -6
This trade is only good if Brazil gets Love. Teams #1-8, please don't let that happen. While Love is a good prospect I'm not sure that makes a ton of sense for them. They have a few 3/4s and apparently are looking for outside shooting which is not Bob's strength. Defense is a need on that team but I don't think one guy will make a huge difference. Maybe - just saw he traded Felix. But Love is a huge difference maker. |
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Post by London on Aug 9, 2013 13:13:35 GMT -6
Yeah you might be right.
Would you play Love at the 4? I don't think it would but maybe it would work. He's a weird hybrid player who defends more perimeter but scores more in the post. Tough call.
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Post by Sydney on Aug 12, 2013 15:16:33 GMT -6
Wilkens >>>>> Zidek
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Post by Dave on Aug 12, 2013 21:22:55 GMT -6
Yeah you might be right. Would you play Love at the 4? I don't think it would but maybe it would work. He's a weird hybrid player who defends more perimeter but scores more in the post. Tough call. This is something I am trying to figure out if would work tbh. As is, I can plug him at the 4 and put out the same lineup that made me a playoff team the first season except with way better defense and possible scoring from Love. |
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Post by London on Aug 12, 2013 21:26:20 GMT -6
He's a heck of a talent. Just not sure the best way to use him. Try him all over, maybe you'll be surprised how well he performs. That or trade him to Chicago. He'd love Love.  |
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Post by Jeb on Aug 12, 2013 21:30:41 GMT -6
id take him i suppose... if you twisted my arm  maybe |
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Post by Phil Jackson on Aug 12, 2013 21:34:43 GMT -6
Yeah you might be right. Would you play Love at the 4? I don't think it would but maybe it would work. He's a weird hybrid player who defends more perimeter but scores more in the post. Tough call. This is something I am trying to figure out if would work tbh. As is, I can plug him at the 4 and put out the same lineup that made me a playoff team the first season except with way better defense and possible scoring from Love. He's a small forward. Plenty of SF's don't have 3 point shots. Post defense is pretty important for small forwards too, in my opinion. He's the perfect Pippen to your poor-mans Jordan (Selvy) |
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Post by craig on Aug 12, 2013 22:25:52 GMT -6
Too bad I wasn't in town I really would have like to grab Wilkens. Concerning the trade, Wilkens is a franchise PG and I think at 9 you don't get the same calibre of talent. I have no idea why Brasil would make this deal. Wilekns to me is a guy you build around and not trade.
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Post by Derek on Aug 13, 2013 6:19:27 GMT -6
Too bad I wasn't in town I really would have like to grab Wilkens. Concerning the trade, Wilkens is a franchise PG and I think at 9 you don't get the same calibre of talent. I have no idea why Brasil would make this deal. Wilekns to me is a guy you build around and not trade. I do believe you offered your 3 picks in the 20s for him. Which I shut down quickly. |
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Post by Berlin on Aug 13, 2013 7:18:13 GMT -6
Too bad I wasn't in town I really would have like to grab Wilkens. Concerning the trade, Wilkens is a franchise PG and I think at 9 you don't get the same calibre of talent. I have no idea why Brasil would make this deal. Wilekns to me is a guy you build around and not trade. I do believe you offered your 3 picks in the 20s for him. Which I shut down quickly. Yeah...cause clearly that deal would have been MORE ridiculous than the deal you ended up taking. |
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Post by Derek on Aug 13, 2013 7:32:31 GMT -6
I do believe you offered your 3 picks in the 20s for him. Which I shut down quickly. Yeah...cause clearly that deal would have been MORE ridiculous than the deal you ended up taking. I thought it was. I got the best offer I could for Lenny. Just didn't want someone coming in here lying about what they "might" have offered had they seen it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 15:08:22 GMT -6
I think I should get PP for these poll results.
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Post by craig on Aug 13, 2013 21:54:21 GMT -6
Yeah...cause clearly that deal would have been MORE ridiculous than the deal you ended up taking. I thought it was. I got the best offer I could for Lenny. Just didn't want someone coming in here lying about what they "might" have offered had they seen it. You really think I want to deal with you after your response to my first offer. My first offer was shit, I don't contend that, however you should have realized I was interested in Wilkens and have 2 top 5 picks. You laughed in my face, you really think I wanted to talk to you after that. That is my biggest pet peeve. You never told me what you wanted or made a counter offer. |
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Post by Derek on Aug 14, 2013 6:11:42 GMT -6
I thought it was. I got the best offer I could for Lenny. Just didn't want someone coming in here lying about what they "might" have offered had they seen it. You really think I want to deal with you after your response to my first offer. My first offer was shit, I don't contend that, however you should have realized I was interested in Wilkens and have 2 top 5 picks. You laughed in my face, you really think I wanted to talk to you after that. That is my biggest pet peeve. You never told me what you wanted or made a counter offer. You came in low balling me completely. I'm not wasting my time with someone like that. |
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